I did have to tune them more often, but I never minded that. Your previous content has been restored. Step 1: Remove old string - when re-stringing a banjo, you can save yourself some later readjustments by changing only one string at a time. Let's call this the knot as stopper method. Step 2: Insert new string through the tailpiece. Once you have done that, pull the free end snug, but not tight, and cut the excess cord of about ½ inch from the bowstring. I hope you come to enjoy your new strings. Remove the old string (if you haven’t already). Research video has shown that arrows that are not supported above and below the nock tend to walk up and down the string during the shot. Pirastro chose to make the A string with a ball-end to prevent it from breaking so easily down at the tailpiece. Besides, your banjo looks and feels better. I find loop around the strings are more prone. Players swear by Elixir Strings over any other string, insisting tone sounds new and strings feel fresh the longest. tend to be gut core strings, metal wrapped, or straight gut strings. "And why are the G and D loop end, but the A is ball end?". In this mounting, the small loop on the string moved to the front of the tailpiece (rather than being under it) and the string passed through that small loop on its way to the peg. Attaching the string to the tuning post, however, can be a bit trickier. Some brands have "removable ball" strings. I wouldn't, myself, want to mount a loop end string by threading the peg end of the string through its end loop and around the front edge of the tail piece. Why The Song Wanted By Jessie James Decker The Song Really Paved The Way With Her Christina Aguilera-ish Country Music Soaring Powerful What? Then, while using your lighter, burn one edge as you rotate the cord over the flame. This is how I strung my fiddle when I used gut strings. Upload or insert images from URL. For the ball end type, there is a slot where the violin string fits into. [This message has been edited by Desert Rat (edited 09-20-2000). Immediately press the burnt end of the cord against the lighters metal housing; just enough to form a mushroom without flattening the end of the cord making it brittle. Second, D-Loops, or string loops, are made of a flexible material and therefore offer a measure of forgiveness when shot using a release aid. The unwound strings are tied with a special knot. 2. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. You can, therefore, attach either end of the string to the bridge. This will help stretch the string as well as keep it seated in the nut. Not only do I not get that...I also don't understand how one decides which Eudoxas to try first! Unfortunately, it is very difficult to replicate the warmth and beauty of the tone that comes from using gut, so that is a strong consideration for many players. 3. By using the site, you consent to the use of cookies unless you have disabled them. Wow. Your link has been automatically embedded. You cannot paste images directly. Step 3: Hook the loop end of the string on the tailpiece. That sent me looking through the photos in Hamma's 1971, MASTER ITALIAN MAKERS, where most of the violins have looped end, gut core strings. But I am in an orchestra, and I can't be bothered with retuning and replacing strings quickly and allowing them to stretch, etc. Lastly, they can extend the life of your bowstring and serving since your release aid will never attach directly to either one. My violin teacher taught me to thread the string through the loop, as Todd French kindly and accurately suggested. 1. For good quality strings one minute to put them out of the way is a sensible investment of time to avoid breaking the windings. ©2009-2020 W. L. Gore & Associates, Inc. There was a song in the 80s by timex social club called rumors. It's whatever you prefer. I prefer attaching just as you would ball end strings -- less kinks, doesn't affect afterlength, but other knowledgeable people do prefer to use the end loop to thread the main string through. There are many benefits to keeping your strings fresh. This website uses cookies. Gut strings, being made of natural materials, are not the most reliable strings to use. Paste as plain text instead, × × 2. Loop Advocate really liked the tonal results he was getting with his method, wasn't getting any breakage, and actually contacted Pirastro (which makes a lot of looped end strings) to see which method they recommended. Such looping creates a lot of sharp bends in the string at the tailpiece that would make the string subject to breaking, I would think. For more information, you can visit the Pirastro website: www.pirastro.com. Your previous content has been restored. How do I do it? [This message has been edited by Shar Help (edited 09-20-2000).]. But after the exchange with the poster who did loop around the front edge of the tailpiece, and seeing the e-mail from Pirastro stating it's ok to do that, and seeing the many instances of very fine violins with strings mounted that way, I feel like I have to concede that while I wouldn't do it for what I believe are good reasons, it's not really wrong to do it. I found it very difficult to play them... Of course, it could be because they are brand new, or it could simply be that I'm not advanced enought to "handle" a gut string (I understand gut strings are much less forgiving than synthetics). The only operation that needs the tail free without string is a tailpiece replacement. Another poster ( I wish I could remember his name; let's call him "Loop Advocate") thought the proper way to attach the string to the tailpiece was by putting the looped end down under the tailpiece, as I would do, but then feeding the other end of the string through the loop to form a larger loop around the front edge of the tailpiece. On the other hand, if you do attach using the knot as stopper method and find the fiddle sounds unpleasantly boomy, try attaching using the Loop Advocate's method. PLEASE tell me they take a while to break in...... or am I simply not ready for gut? So, if JConner follows our advice, he'll stick the looped end into the tailpiece slot so that the knot acts as a stopper on the under side of the tailpiece in keeping the string attached to the tailpiece. They must be classical guitar strings made to pass through the bridge then through the loop. I don't have a problem with constantly tuning the instrument.... the problem i had with the strings was that they ALL whistled! If you want to try these strings, where do you start? Then, while using your lighter, burn one edge as you rotate the cord over the flame. They take a while to break in; the first few days you are constantly tuning. The Bow Shop Bible: The Ultimate Tool for Archers, D-Loop cord at least 4 ¼ inches in length. Remember to let the string slide through your left fingers, and then hold the spot when the string looks like this. In one sense, nylon strings are easier to deal with than steel strings because nylon isn’t as springy as steel. You will find that the loop stretches out and comes to meet the tailpiece, with the string dipping down slightly because of the pull. As a ball begins to form on the end of the cord you should blow out the flame. Using the “bulbed” end of your cord, tie a cinch knot (as shown) above your mark on the bowstring. You can also experiment with pre-cut cord lengths until you find the one that suits your needs. Powered by Invision Community. It also says, "specific gauges available". And why are the G and D loop end, but the A is ball end? Please see the Cookie Policy for more information. Secure the string by bringing the short end over the … Copyright 2019 Maestronet Loop end strings for the three lower strings for violin (and for viola?) and the nickel wound ones have a little loop at the end made of string or something? Now I gather that most players attach their gut strings as Shar Help suggested, but I use synthetic strings now so I don't have much other information to offer on this front. [This message has been edited by Ludwig (edited 09-19-2000). (again, hard to describe, but I hope you have the picture). Step 4: Here's the pro's trick to find the right string length to get the proper number of wraps around the tuner: hold the string like this with your left hand fingers - right at the tuner. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Although it is possible to put a loop end string using a ball end tuner, it's not recommended, because the sharp edges of the tuner posts increases the chance of the loop ends to break, as shown on the right. Step 1: Remove old string - when re-stringing a banjo, you can save yourself some later readjustments by changing only one string at a time. You can post now and register later. There are several advantages to installing a D-Loop on your current bow rig. If you have ever strung with uncut, and unknotted gut you will understand that the slots included in the tailpiece accomodate the string itself and not the knot. Your email address will not be published. Later on in the 80s however there was a cover version of the song . Take your cut loop material and mash the edges out to form sort of a mushroom. I'd never had any string but an E whistle on me. You cannot paste images directly. I just bought a set of Eudoxas to try out, but I've never installed loop-end strings before. Quick, online trivia game question I need answer for: What's the name of an 80s song about a classical composer and who performs it? Thank you, Tania, for that very thorough response...... very helpful. Repeat the bulb burning process described above. My thinking was that the less kinks in a string, the better. Using a bow square, locate your “tie in” location by cutting the Berger hole in half and marking 1/8 of an inch high of the perpendicular location provided by the bow square. Ludwig, I want to respond to your topic -- partly -- in the hopes that you will come to understand that I'm a nice guy, since I gather from another thread you had a different impression. I took the position that loop end strings should be attached to the tail piece just as ball end synthetic strings are attached, namely by sliding the string into the slot on the tailpiece and letting the knot at the loop end act as a stopper to keep the string from slipping through the slot. As a violin repairer, I vote fot the "knot as stopper method" for a reason that no one else has mentioned: This method makes it very easy to remove the strings from the tailpiece and put them back on. (the loop being cut by sharp matel (tuner) it contacts) If you use loop end string, let the head of the string (part goes to peg) go through. You can post now and register later. He won't loop the string around the front edge of the tailpiece. Acoustic guitars tend to come equipped with light strings. I just got new strings. Looking through the del Gesus and Strads revealed that about half of the string mountings were by Loop Advocate's method and half were the knot as stopper method. String angle is set by bridge height and saddle length only since the tailpiece is fully free to move. John Carruthers shows us the proper way to fix a strap button. Do gut strings generally take longer to break-in? Paste as plain text instead, × There was a discussion about this a while back. Augustine strings to be exact and the nickel wound ones have a little loop at the end made of string or something? Still have questions? Better tone quality, better right and left hand finger response, wider range of dynamics possible and more range of tone to mention a few. If the knot wasn't big enough to keep string from slipping through, you could add a small disk of leather (3 to 4 mm diameter) with a hole in it to act as cushion and stopper between string knot and underside of tailpiece.